Proud Boy snowflakes 2020
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Post by Proud Boy snowflakes 2020 on Nov 5, 2020 0:27:27 GMT
PayPal has apparently cut ties with MyMilitia, a social media platform connecting people who want to learn about and form armed militias around the US.
Tess Owen
(@misstessowen)
In other news this week: PayPal appears to have cut ties with MyMilitia, the website which allows self-styled militiamen to organize and share paramilitary tactics pic.twitter.com/Koyew5Q8cI
November 4, 2020
Someone posted on the site’s forum that PayPal “nuked” its donation account. The user said supporters can no longer donate to the group via the link on its website, which previously linked to its PayPal page and now leads to an empty error page.
The user who posted about the shut down said “we will be switching to a new method of donating soon.”
A spokesman told the Guardian an account banned on Paypal will also be banned from using Venmo, a money service owned by PayPal that has been floated by MyMilitia users as a possible donation alternative.
The removal marks the latest move in a battle to deplatform violent right wing groups. In another thread on the site, an alternative fundraising platform called “GiveSendGo” has raised more than $500,000 in legal defense funds for Kyle Rittenhouse, the 17 year old who shot multiple protesters in Wisconsin earlier this year and killed two. Rittenhouse’s bail has been set at $2m.
Crowdfunding platform GoFundMe removed fundraisers for Rittenhouse earlier this year for violating its policies. GiveSendGo, a Christian crowdfunding site, confirmed to the Guardian that hosting a fundraiser for a mass shooter does comply with its policies “as an acceptable campaign”.
These "militia" groups will not lie down and take this. The democratic process has become so warped over there. Way too many lies, way too many ignorant and gullible people. Who have guns...
Can't see how America comes back together following all this...
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Post by cliffs on Nov 5, 2020 12:05:30 GMT
As of Wednesday night, Fox News had one of the most pessimistic maps for the Trump campaign, with the network being one of two outlets to call Arizona for Joe Biden. (The Associated Press is the other.) And you'll never guess who was rumored to be furious that it was his preferred news channel that happened to be the bearer of bad news.
"According to a source, [President] Trump phoned Fox owner Rupert Murdoch to scream about the call and demand a retraction" after Fox's ruling was made just before 11:30 p.m. on Tuesday night, Gabriel Sherman reports for Vanity Fair. "Murdoch refused, and the call stood."
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Make America hate again 2020
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Post by Make America hate again 2020 on Nov 5, 2020 14:23:01 GMT
"Look, you know and I know that as soon as enough races have been called that Biden has 270 Electoral College votes, it is still not going to be the end of this.
Wisconsin, provided Trump is within 1% of Biden, will get recounted for sure. And there are the legal challenges. Reuters have just put together this handy outline of a few of the key ones:
Michigan ballot-counting fight
Trump’s campaign said on Wednesday it had filed a lawsuit in Michigan to stop state officials from counting ballots. The campaign said the case in the Michigan Court of Claims seeks to halt counting until it has an election inspector at each absentee-voter counting board. The campaign also wanted to review ballots that were opened and counted before an inspector from its campaign was present.
Pennsylvania court battles
Republican officials on Tuesday sued election officials in Montgomery County, which borders Philadelphia, accusing them of illegally counting mail-in ballots early and giving voters who submitted defective ballots a chance to re-vote. At a hearing on Wednesday, US District Judge Timothy Savage in Philadelphia appeared skeptical of their allegations and how the integrity of the election might be affected.
In a separate lawsuit, the Trump campaign asked a judge to halt ballot counting in Pennsylvania, claiming that Republicans had been unlawfully denied access to observe the process.
Meanwhile, Republicans in Pennsylvania have asked the US Supreme Court to review a decision from the state’s highest court that allowed election officials to count mail-in ballots postmarked by Election Day that arrived through until Friday 6 November. On Wednesday, Trump’s campaign filed a motion to intervene in the case.
Supreme court justices said last week there was not enough time to decide the merits of the case before Election Day but indicated they might revisit it afterwards. As a result, Pennsylvania election officials said they will segregate properly postmarked ballots that arrived after Election Day, which opens the possibility the court could subsequently strike them out.
US Postal Service litigation
A judge on Wednesday said Postmaster General Louis DeJoy must answer questions about why the USPS failed to complete a court-ordered sweep for undelivered ballots in about a dozen states before a Tuesday afternoon deadline. US District Judge Emmet Sullivan is overseeing a lawsuit by Vote Forward, the NAACP, and Latino community advocates who have been demanding the postal service deliver mail-in ballots in time to be counted in the election.
Georgia ballot fight
The Trump campaign on Wednesday evening filed a lawsuit in state court in Chatham County, Georgia. Unlike the Pennsylvania and Michigan actions, that lawsuit is not asking a judge to halt ballot counting. Instead, the campaign said it received information that late-arriving ballots were improperly mingled with valid ballots, and asked a judge to enter an order making sure late-arriving ballots were separated so they would not be counted.
After the announcement just now that there will be a press conference in Nevada this morning featuring the Republican chair of the state and attorneys, presumably we’ll be able to add Nevada to that list soon."
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Post by cliffs on Nov 5, 2020 15:22:22 GMT
There are only 60 electoral votes left. Donald has 214. He has to win all but Alaska (3 votes) to get the nod. That would give him 271. Biden has 264 votes. If he wins Nevada (6 votes), game over as that would be 270. Of course if he wins any other state but Alaska, game over for sure.
Alaska - 3
Georgia - 16
Nevada - 6
North Carolina - 15
Pennsylvania - 20
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Post by Dump Trump 2020 on Nov 5, 2020 18:35:43 GMT
Here is Donald Trump again, alleging widespread fraud in the presidential election with no evidence.
“All of the recent Biden claimed States will be legally challenged by us for Voter Fraud and State Election Fraud. Plenty of proof - just check out the Media. WE WILL WIN! America First!” the president said in a new tweet.
Again, there is no evidence of widespread fraud in the election. It’s also worth noting that presidential nominees do not “claim” states, as Trump tried to do yesterday. Nominees win states through securing a majority of the legally cast votes there.
Biden was declared the winner of states like Wisconsin and Michigan after it became clear he had won more votes than Trump. It’s as simple as that.
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Post by Dump Trump 2020 on Nov 5, 2020 18:36:22 GMT
Donald Trump’s lead in Georgia continues to shrink, as the final batches of votes are posted by state election officials.
After an update from the Democratic-leaning Fulton county, Trump’s lead over Joe Biden now stands at 14,857, or 0.3% of the total vote.
Senator David Perdue is also now in runoff territory, with his vote number slipping below the 50% needed to win outright.
After the latest batch of ballots, Perdue stands at 49.997% of the vote in the Senate race.
If his number stays below 50%, Perdue will face off with Democrat Jon Ossoff in a January runoff that could determine control of the US Senate.
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Post by Dump Trump 2020 on Nov 5, 2020 18:37:00 GMT
A Georgia judge has dismissed the Trump campaign’s lawsuit over absentee ballots in the state.
The president’s reelection campaign tried to argue election officials were attempting to count invalid ballots in Georgia.
When pressed for evidence of that claim, the Trump campaign could not produce any.
The president’s campaign is trying to launch legal challenges in multiple battleground states, but they do not seem to have much merit at this point.
Election officials in multiple states have emphasized they will count every valid ballot before finalizing their results.
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Post by Dump Trump 2020 on Nov 5, 2020 18:38:25 GMT
The Trump campaign held a press conference in Nevada, pushing baseless accusations of fraud in the state, where Joe Biden has a narrow lead.
When an MSNBC reporter pressed campaign adviser Ric Grennell on the accusations, he walked away from him.
Grenell, the former acting director of national intelligence, would not even respond when another reporter asked for his name.
“You’re here to take in information,” Grenell responded.
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Post by Dump Trump 2020 on Nov 5, 2020 18:42:51 GMT
The whole "mail ballot fruad" narrative is so fucking transparent.
His campaign strategists very clearly knew (as we all did) that there would be way more mail ins, they very clearly knew (as we all did) they would favour the democrats, so they started sewing the seeds EARLY.
Now, it appears like it has merit as the ballots favour biden. It's just like a conspiracy theory. I mean, it actually is one really, isn't it. And we all know how much Americans love conspiracy theories.
So fucking irresponsible to do that to the electoral process. Disgusting abuse of power.
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Post by Dump Trump 2020 on Nov 5, 2020 18:47:00 GMT
FreedomWorks, the group funded by wealthy conservative donors that helped launch the Tea Party, helped organize the protest in Philadelphia, as well as others around the country, my colleague Lois Beckett noted.
“We’re here today to help provide a platform for our activists to make it known that we’re watching what’s going on after this election,” said Sarah Anderson, FreedomWorks’ director of Policy, who was at the protest. “I don’t think it’s an effort to get legal ballots rejected. It’s an effort to get legal ballots counted.”
Asked what kind of illegal ballots she was concerned about Anderson claimed there were ballots discovered after election day “that weren’t there on election day.” There’s no evidence that’s true.
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Make America hate again 2020
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Post by Make America hate again 2020 on Nov 5, 2020 19:19:46 GMT
Kathy Boockvar, Pennsylvania secretary of state, has just told CNN that the winner of the state could be announced tonight.
There are still 550,000 ballots left to be processed, but officials are ahead of schedule and most will be counted by this evening, Boockvar said.
The key is Philadelphia, where there’s about 100,000 outstanding ballots and where Joe Biden is winning a whopping 80% of votes.
This means it may not matter that Allegheny county, home to Pennsylvania’s second-largest city of Pittsburgh, has suspended counting until tomorrow.
Boockvar also said that Donald Trump’s legal appeal to discount mail-in ballots posted by 3 November, but which arrive before the end of Friday 6 November, would not make a significant difference as there’s only a few thousand.
Reminder: as things stand, Trump cannot win without Pennsylvania’s 20 electoral college seats. His lead has shrunk from 618,000 on Wednesday morning to 111,000 right now.
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Make America hate again 2020
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Post by Make America hate again 2020 on Nov 5, 2020 19:21:33 GMT
(that's a lot of updates, I'll leave it there!)
That final one is interesting, though, as a comprehensive, and pretty much unchallengeable, win in Pennsylvania kind of shuts down what trump's team are trying to "prove" elsewhere...
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Post by cliffs on Nov 5, 2020 20:33:12 GMT
President Trump said Thursday morning that he wants to stop counting votes, which would disenfranchise millions of Americans who have cast legitimate ballots in the presidential election.
“Stop the count,” Trump tweeted at two different times Thursday morning. Even as he did so, Democrat Joe Biden led in enough states that if the vote counting were immediately halted — which it will not be — Biden would be declared the next president.
Votes are still being counted in all 50 states, in fact, because that is how the process works, including ballots from overseas — a large amount of which were cast by members of the military. But there are four states that have yet to be fully decided, leaving the result of the presidential contest still unclear.
As of Thursday morning, Biden had a narrow lead in Nevada and Arizona, while Trump had the edge in Pennsylvania and Georgia. The count in all four states is proceeding slowly.
If the vote count were stopped in Nevada and Arizona, Biden would be declared the winner of 270 Electoral College votes and would be the president-elect. Even if Trump held on to Pennsylvania and Georgia, where his lead is slipping, he would fall short of the 270 Electoral College votes necessary to win the presidency.
I totally agree with Donald...STIOP COUNTING....what a f"ing idiot he is.
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Proud Boy snowflakes 2020
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Post by Proud Boy snowflakes 2020 on Nov 6, 2020 10:42:28 GMT
Hahahaha! the covid thread troll actually thinks the vote has been rigged...
Man, and I thought my opinion of him couldn't drop any further.
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Post by Dump Trump 2020 on Nov 6, 2020 10:50:20 GMT
Donald Trump has unleashed a torrent of misinformation in a White House speech that tried to undermine the legitimacy of the US election.
One allegation after another had no basis in fact, including claims that election officials in Pennsylvania and Detroit tried to ban election observers from polling stations. The president left without taking questions.
Here’s what the president claimed, and what’s actually true:
‘We have so much evidence' :
TRUMP: “We’re hearing stories that are horror stories ... We think there is going to be a lot of litigation because we have so much evidence and so much proof.”
THE FACTS: Trump has produced no evidence of systemic problems in voting or counting. In fact the ballot-counting process across the country has been running smoothly for the most part, even with the US in the throes of the coronavirus pandemic.
One of his main complaints – that counting spilled over past election day – is meritless. No presidential election has had all the votes counted the same day, and there is no law or even expectation that it should be the case. The surge in mailed ballots and the high turnout have made the process slower than usual in some, but not all, cases.
Pennsylvania:
TRUMP: “In Pennsylvania partisan Democrats have allowed ballots in the state to be received three days after the election and we think much more than that and they are counting those without any postmarks or any identification whatsoever.”
THE FACTS: The state supreme court, not “partisan Democrats”, ordered that ballots filled out before the end of election day could be received up to three days later and still be counted. The US supreme court examined the case and did not stand in the way of the three-day timeframe but may review the matter later. A number of other states have also made accommodations for the additional mailed ballots.
TRUMP: “Pennsylvania Democrats have gone to the state supreme court to try and ban our election observers … They don’t want anybody in there. They don’t want anybody watching them while they are counting the ballots.”
THE FACTS: That is false. The president is wholly misrepresenting the court case. No one tried to ban poll watchers representing each side and Democrats did not try to stop Republican representatives from being able to observe the process.
The main issue was how close observers representing the parties could get to election workers who are processing mail-in ballots. The Trump campaign sued to let observers to get closer than the guidelines had allowed. A court ruled in favour of that request.
Michigan:
TRUMP: “Our campaign has been denied access to observe any counting in Detroit.”
THE FACTS: That is false. Absentee ballots were counted at a downtown convention centre where 134 counting boards were set up. Each party was allowed one poll watcher per board, said the city clerk, Janice Winfrey. She was not aware of any Republican poll watchers being removed but noted some had been “very aggressive, trying to intimidate the poll workers and processors”.
Mark Brewer, former chairman of the Michigan Democratic party, said he was inside the convention centre and access was cut off to some people from both sides at one point because of capacity restrictions related to the pandemic.
Georgia:
TRUMP: “The election apparatus in Georgia is run by Democrats.”
THE FACTS: False. The state’s elections are overseen by a Republican – the secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger.
TRUMP: “The 11th Circuit ruled that in Georgia the votes have to be in by election day, that they should be in by election day. And they weren’t. Votes are coming in after election day.”
THE FACTS: Although the court ruled that votes must be in by 7pm election day for them to count, an exception was made for ballots from US military forces serving overseas. Those can be received until 5pm on Friday and still count. Election officials in Georgia are still counting votes but they are votes that have been lawfully received.
Legality of votes:
TRUMP: “If you count the legal votes, I easily win. If you count the illegal votes, they can try to steal the election from us.”
THE FACTS: This is baseless. Neither Trump’s campaign aides nor election officials have identified substantial numbers of “illegal” votes, much less the big numbers it would take to ruin an easy win by Trump. He frequently speaks as if mail-in voting is illegitimate. But it has been done in accordance with state voting rules, in some cases adapted by officials to help voters get through the pandemic safely.
TRUMP: “We were winning all the key locations, by a lot actually.” (Complaining that underhanded activity sapped his leads in important races.)
THE FACTS: The change in fortunes he speaks about is explained by the nature of vote counting in the states – not by any sudden surge of malfeasance.
Often, big cities are slower to report their numbers, and those big-city votes tend to skew Democratic. Likewise, states tend to count mail-in ballots at the end of the process. That portion of the vote has tended to favour Biden, because Trump had told his supporters to avoid mail-in voting, and to vote in person either early or on election day. This explains why Trump finished election night with leads in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin and Georgia, among the states most in play, then saw his advantage begin to fray by Wednesday and afterwards.
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