Donald Trump's mental decline

[jacobkessler]

www.newsweek.com/trump-losing-it-mentally-scaramucci-white-house-racist-1454662?amp=1


I mean, Scaramucci said it. Not a person I’d expect to hear it from. It’s scary that we could have a literal dictatorship in a few years- not that Donald hasn’t suggested it before with his “people will beg me to run for a third term” tweet.

[karma4u]

Too true all that and this from the "Mooch". Nothing that most folks haven't known for a long time. 

Donald has reaped much reward for his deceit over the years.

The time is coming , when Donald will have to "pay the piper".   can't wait. 

[gregfordyce]

Aug 17, 2019 1:15:41 GMT karma4u said:

Too true all that and this from the "Mooch". Nothing that most folks haven't known for a long time. 

Donald has reaped much reward for his deceit over the years.

The time is coming , when Donald will have to "pay the piper".   can't wait. 

Perhaps I am too jaded, but I just don't see any "pay the piper" day in the future for Trump or any of his cult-like followers and enablers. They have gotten away with everything they have done so far - why would they suddenly not? Trump and the Republican Party has inflicted so much damage on the Constitution, our democracy, the rule of law, and the long-standing institutions of our nation that I don't honestly think we will ever fully recover. Too many doors have been opened that should never have been. Too many ugly traits in people have been awakened and encouraged. Again - perhaps I am too cynical. I just don't see evil (because that is what I feel it is) suddenly being vanquished and the perpetrators being made to answer for their crimes. Hope I'm wrong and you are right!

[ray]

He will absolutely pay the piper in one way or another. Even if he is never jailed, the media he has demonised will make a laughing stock of him. He can’t avoid a TV when he is responsible for the US, you can only think it will be more when he isn’t.

The Democrats have a chance to become the party of what is right and good. Sadly it’s going to be Bernie or Biden for now, but in 4 years time it may be a Harris or Beto that take the reigns. I don’t think the Republican Party can come back from this - it could well be 20 years before the Dems lose power.

Donald Trump is a lesson. He’s an amplification of everything bad about the Republicans. People are inherently good. Even the worst of his supporters will deny it once he’s the laughing stock the media will make of him.

[gregfordyce]

I completely admire and respect your optimism, Ray. I simply do not share it. I also do not believe that most people are inherently good and decent who want to do the right thing. Those people are a minority - and a shrinking one at that.

As far as your belief in the temporary fall of the Republican Party, I think they are on the ascendent, not the decline:
There Will Be No Justice For Trump's Enablers

Sorry for my cynicism. Keep your optimism strong! 

[ErixonStone]

Aug 20, 2019 13:33:45 GMT gregfordyce said:

I also do not believe that most people are inherently good and decent who want to do the right thing.

I disagree with you. I think humans inherently want to do the right thing. That's how our species has been able to survive.

The problem is that "the right thing" is extremely subjective. We're bad at judging "the right thing" so our poor judgment leads us to being jerks in the name of "the right thing."

[cliffs]

Aug 20, 2019 13:33:45 GMT gregfordyce said:

I completely admire and respect your optimism, Ray. I simply do not share it. I also do not believe that most people are inherently good and decent who want to do the right thing. Those people are a minority - and a shrinking one at that.

As far as your belief in the temporary fall of the Republican Party, I think they are on the ascendent, not the decline:
There Will Be No Justice For Trump's Enablers

Sorry for my cynicism. Keep your optimism strong! 

First why do you think most people are not good and decent? I know I try to lead a decent life style and feel I am about as good as I can be without becoming Mother Theresa my grandmother.  I know - minority.

Second{

From that link and it describes repubs (and any political party) perfectly:

In fact, they’ll undertake a massive project of historical revisionism to convince the country that what we just lived through was all a figment of our imagination. “Just remember: What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what’s happening,” Trump said last year, and this project will attempt to convince us that what we saw, read, and experienced never actually happened. Donald Trump was a fine and responsible president, they’ll say, and even if he might have gotten a little silly on Twitter from time to time, anyone who supported him should take pride in their service to the GOP and to America.



And since the entire Republican Party will repeat this line again and again and again, it will become, if not conventional wisdom, at the very least a respectable position to hold. At worst, if Trump leaves office in disgrace Republicans will say what they did when George W. Bush slinked off in 2009 with the two wars he started still dragging on and the country experiencing the worst economic crisis in 80 years: I never liked him anyway. He wasn’t a real conservative. And of course I didn’t figure that out until it was all over, so don’t blame me.

I said any political party because when you think about it...if I say Bill Clinton, does not your brain register Monica at some momentary flash?


I just feel he is decline in mental health from the things he does and says just like a lot of my friends his age. It isn't rocket science that some humans degrade mentally as they age.  Just another reason (for me) that there should be an upper age limit not just a lower age limit on the presidency.

[paulus]

Also another in the camp that the vast majority of people are decent - it's just that people are easily led down dark paths. Paths they walk willingly because they are made to think they're doing the right thing.

The outright racist/homophobes/haters are in the minority imho - this is hard to prove (very few people will admit to being a hater). But there have been scientific studies that show that the vast majority of humans first instinct is to act selflessly...

www.scientificamerican.com/article/scientists-probe-human-nature-and-discover-we-are-good-after-all/

[ray]

We had a car crash last night behind my house. Over my back fence is a small park then a divided two way road. A guy in a modern Nissan Skyline tried to pass another car (single lane each way so not enough room), lost it whilst sideswiping the gutter - launched over the centre median taking out a light pole, hit another car head on and ended up on his roof with smoke spewing out of the car and the engine screaming. .

It may be the most athletic thing I’ve done in 10 years, but I launched myself over my 6ft fence to an 8ft drop on the other side, ran (hobbled) past the two cars he hit making sure the drivers were safe (the guy he hit head on was amazingly lucky but was already out by the time I got there) and rushed to the smoking, screaming car. The guys was yelling, obviously drunk - but you know what the 2 people he had hit did? They came and helped me get the guy out.

This drunk had nearly killed them, and they still risked themselves to help get him out.

Got the car shut down, got him clear and within 5 min the ambulance was there. He had a badly broken leg but kept trying to get up. The victims of his drunken mistake were compassionate and helpful.

Nothing will ever convince me that more than a sliver of society is bad. The majority of people think they are doing the right thing even when they aren’t - that goes to intelligence or education rather than good or evil. Look at Royce - he’s not evil or bad, he’s selfish and a dumbass.

[ErixonStone]

Aug 20, 2019 18:02:59 GMT cliffs said:

I am about as good as I can be without becoming Mother Theresa.

It's funny that you reference Mother Theresa. She was canonized a saint; lots of people think she was the epitome of righteousness.

My opinion of her is that she was... let's just say "something other than a saint."

[paulus]

Yep, it's a well known "secret" that she was self serving - her overriding primary concern was growing the church membership, *much* less interested in the people themselves.

The camps for the sick and injured were just a by product of that primary mission. They were terrible places by and large - highly unsanitary with high death rates - medical observers likened them to the conditions in Nazi concentration camps. Perhaps worse, she seemed to enjoy seeing the people in pain... saw it as some sort of divine providence... and actively withheld pain relief...

“There is something beautiful in seeing the poor accept their lot, to suffer it like Christ’s Passion. The world gains much from their suffering.”

Funnily enough, for her medical care she went to a modern US hospital and got plenty of pain relief. It's just the poor that deserve that suffering...

She also got quite rich off the back of all her charitable donations - quite a few have questioned where all that money went - one estimate of a million pound donation by German researchers estimated that 7 per cent of it went to charity.

Not to mention her standard Christian bullshit - no abortion under any cases (rape included), no birth control under any case. Let's bring more unwanted / unsupportable children into the world... so she can see them suffering I suppose. Let's fuel the aids epidemic in poor countries by insisting they don't use sexual protection.

Googling "Mother Teresa was a cunt" throws up 5.6million hits....

[cliffs]

My post has been edited for those who love Google. Can't find squat about ol' granny.

[paulus]

Not really necessary Cliffs bud. Your comment was pretty standard - we all use the "like Mother Teresa" phrase - it's part of the common lexicon. It's just interesting to realise that like a lot of public figures - the public image is radically different to the actual person.

[cliffs]

Need a sarcasm icon.

[paulus]