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Post by cliffs on Jul 6, 2021 11:29:13 GMT
KABUL — The Taliban have showed off containers full of weapons and military hardware seized from the Afghan military as American forces withdraw from the country and the militants continue their march across the country.
The weaponry includes 900 guns, 30 light tactical vehicles and 20 army pick-up trucks, according to NBC News' U.K. partner Sky News, which was granted access to the Sultan Khil military base in the Wardak province close to the Afghan capital Kabul.
Meanwhile, district after district has fallen to the Taliban. The militants have seized 120 districts since May 1, according to an ongoing assessment by the Long War Journal. The map is a moving patchwork, but at last count the Taliban controlled 193 districts and contested 130, while 75 were under the control of the government or are undetermined, according to the publication that reports on the global war on terror and is a project of The Foundation for Defense of Democracies, a hawkish Washington think tank.
At the same time, many military outposts have been surrendered without a fight, allowing the Taliban to seize weapons, according to multiple Afghan military and government sources.
So the fucking country can go right back to where they were 25 years ago?
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Post by cliffs on Jul 7, 2021 13:32:15 GMT
Another LOST war by the greatest nation on earth. We have not defeated anyone since WW2 and that is SAD. Time to stop playing world police and either take the gloves off or stay home.
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Post by ErixonStone on Jul 10, 2021 2:48:27 GMT
Staying home is the correct answer. The Taliban is not a direct threat to the United States. The US is responsible for arming the Taliban in the first place.
Back in 2002, US officials lied to the general public by claiming that Iraq, under Saddam Hussein, held a cache of Weapons of Mass Destruction. Not only was this not true, but US intelligence knew this was not true. Instead of telling the American public that there were, in fact, no WMD in Iraq, the US government, led by the recently departed Donald Rumsfeld, lied to perpetrate an illegal, offensive war against a sovereign nation that did not attack us.
The United States is primarily responsible for the destabilization of the Middle East. It's high time that we got out. We have no business there.
18 of 19 WTC attackers were a Saudi nationals. In the immediate aftermath, we attacked Iraq and Afghanistan, and made an arms deal with Saudi Arabia.
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Post by ErixonStone on Jul 10, 2021 2:53:15 GMT
Another LOST war by the greatest nation on earth. We have not defeated anyone since WW2 and that is SAD. Time to stop playing world police and either take the gloves off or stay home. The only reason the US has not accomplished its objectives in Afghanistan and Iraq is that the US never had an objective other than to occupy the nations and harvest their oil. Hunt Iraqi dictator, Saddam Hussein? He was captured 18 years ago. Hunt Al-Qaeda leader, Osama Bin Laden? He was killed 10 years ago. If those were our objectives, then we should have been long gone. But, we had other objectives. |
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Post by cliffs on Jul 10, 2021 10:17:43 GMT
Any proof we are harvesting their oil?
In 2020, Canada was the source of 52% of U.S. total gross petroleum imports and 61% of gross crude oil imports.
The top five sources of U.S. total petroleum (including crude oil) imports by share of total petroleum imports in 2020 were.
Canada52%
Mexico11%
Russia7%
Saudi Arabia7%
Colombia4%
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Post by LKeet6 on Jul 21, 2021 9:20:00 GMT
Any proof we are harvesting their oil? In 2020, Canada was the source of 52% of U.S. total gross petroleum imports and 61% of gross crude oil imports. The top five sources of U.S. total petroleum (including crude oil) imports by share of total petroleum imports in 2020 were. Canada52% Mexico11% Russia7% Saudi Arabia7% Colombia4% It's not as simple as "get more oil for America" (though 7%, with the promise of more, is not insignificant!) America took over the infrastructure of that country, and inserted companies like haliburton there to take over the oil industry and subsidiary industries. And American politicians and elites stood to benefit HUGELY from that, to the tune of 100s of millions of dollars. They weren't doing it to help America with oil, they were doing it to line their own pockets. (something they couldn't do with Canada's oil industry, obviously...) |
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Post by cliffs on Jul 26, 2021 11:20:23 GMT
The Taliban have swiftly captured territory in recent weeks in Afghanistan, and seized strategic border crossings with several neighboring countries. They are also threatening a number of provincial capitals — advances that come as the last U.S. and NATO soldiers complete their final withdrawal from Afghanistan.
The insurgents are said to now control about half of Afghanistan’s 419 district centers. The rapid fall of districts and the seemingly disheartened response by Afghan government forces have prompted U.S.-allied warlords to resurrect militias with a violent history.
For many Afghans weary of more than four decades of wars and conflict, fears are rising of another brutal civil war as American and NATO troops leave the country.
Just like Vietnam...we left that country and our enemy (communists in this case) marched right in and took over. We spent 20+ years training these people (Afghans and Iraqis) and what do they do when we aren't dying for them...they put their f'ing tail between their legs and run. FUCKEM.
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Post by cliffs on Aug 16, 2021 21:29:15 GMT
Helicopters buzzed overhead to evacuate personnel from the U.S. Embassy, while smoke rose near the compound as staff destroyed important documents. Several other Western missions also prepared to pull their people out.
Is this 1973 in Vietnam? Hell no it is 2021 in Afghanistan
AHMAD SEIR
Sat, August 14, 2021, 11:00 PM
KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — Taliban fighters entered Kabul on Sunday and sought the unconditional surrender of the central government, officials said, as Afghans and foreigners alike raced for the exit, signaling the end of a 20-year Western experiment aimed at remaking Afghanistan.
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Post by cliffs on Aug 16, 2021 21:29:26 GMT
China's state media mocked the US withdrawal in Afghanistan, saying the Taliban takeover was 'more smooth than the presidential transition in the US'
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Post by cliffs on Aug 17, 2021 14:12:15 GMT
A Taliban commander who helped seize the Afghan presidential palace spent nearly 6 years at Guantanamo, where he told a guard 'we will get you on the outside'
 One of the Taliban fighters filmed celebrating the capture of Kabul at the Afghan presidential palace on Sunday has been identified as a former Guantanamo Bay prison inmate, who once told a guard there: "We will get you on the outside," according to prison records published by The New York Times. In a victory speech, Gholam Ruhani had said that he was held at Guantanamo for nearly eight years. In reality, Ruhani spent nearly six years at the American-run detention center in Cuba, according to records published by The Times in June. The records show that Ruhani was one of the first Taliban fighters to be captured by the US after the September 11, 2001, attacks, entering the prison on the first day it opened in January 2002. He was repatriated to Afghanistan in December 2007, also under President George W. Bush's administration. Officials said Ruhani posed a threat to US if released
In an assessment before he was released, Pentagon officials said that Ruhani posed a "medium" threat to the US, since he had family in "anti-coalition militia entities," and would likely join such groups if released and take part in attacks against US forces in Afghanistan. The assessment included details about Ruhani's conduct in prison, saying his "overall behavior has been complaint and non-hostile toward the guard force and staff." However, it was also noted that he threatened a guard in April 2005, saying: "We will get you on the outside." ******** How many more are there just like him.
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Post by cliffs on Aug 18, 2021 11:06:17 GMT
Taliban on their way to Kabul. How did we lose to these guys?  |
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Post by Morons on Aug 19, 2021 4:33:10 GMT
The dumbest motherfuckers ever in the history of the united states of America are in power.
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Post by cliffs on Aug 19, 2021 11:11:06 GMT
LOL, you do realize that this war had the hands of 4 presidents all over it. Do you seriously think that the former guy would have had a smoother time? The Taliban were waiting in the wings. As soon as we started bringing the boys home, they started taking back their country just as they would have with the former guy and the former guy before him and the former guy who started this war.
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Post by karma4u on Aug 20, 2021 23:49:24 GMT
Just a reminder, to those who have a convenient memory lapse.
WASHINGTON — Days before the anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks two years ago, President Donald J. Trump had a novel idea. He would invite leaders of the Taliban, the group that harbored Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan as the founder of Al Qaeda plotted his strikes on America, to join peace negotiations at the Camp David presidential retreat in Maryland.
The notion of any presidential meeting with the Taliban, let alone one close to Sept. 11, stunned many of Mr. Trump’s top advisers. But Mr. Trump was eager to engage with the militant group, which the United States had been fighting for almost 20 years, as he pursued his goal of removing American troops from Afghanistan by the end of his term.
Months earlier, at Mr. Trump’s direction, the State Department had begun face-to-face talks with the Taliban in Qatar to negotiate an American exit. Mr. Trump called off the Taliban visit to Camp David after an American soldier was killed in a bombing in Kabul, the Afghan capital, but the peace talks continued.
They culminated in a February 2020 deal under which the United States agreed to withdraw in return for Taliban promises not to harbor terrorists and to engage in their first direct negotiations with the Afghan government. Mr. Trump’s secretary of state, Mike Pompeo, attended the signing ceremony in Doha and posed for a photo alongside the Taliban leader, Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, which resurfaced this week on social media. Mr. Baradar is widely expected to become the head of a new Taliban government based in Kabul.
Some former senior Trump officials now call that agreement fatally flawed, saying it did little more than provide cover for a pullout that Mr. Trump was impatient to begin before his re-election bid. They also say it laid the groundwork for the chaos unfolding now in Kabul.
“Our secretary of state signed a surrender agreement with the Taliban,” Mr. Trump’s second national security adviser, H.R. McMaster, said of Mr. Pompeo during a podcast interview with the journalist Bari Weiss on Wednesday. “This collapse goes back to the capitulation agreement of 2020. The Taliban didn’t defeat us. We defeated ourselves.”
And in an interview with CNN on Wednesday, former Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper said that, while President Biden “owns” the ultimate outcome in Afghanistan, Mr. Trump had earlier “undermined” the agreement through his barely disguised impatience to exit the country with little apparent regard for the consequences. That included an October 2020 declaration by Mr. Trump that he wanted the 5,000 American troops then in Afghanistan home by Christmas.
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Post by cliffs on Aug 21, 2021 19:53:58 GMT
KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — Potential Islamic State ( better known as ISIS ) threats against Americans in Afghanistan are forcing the U.S. military to develop new ways to get evacuees to the airport in Kabul, a senior U.S. official said Saturday, adding a new complication to the already chaotic efforts to get people out of the country after its swift fall to the Taliban.
Great, now we have this terrorist group to worry about. They too, have been waiting in the wings for the western allies to leave. And just to say you may have seen it here 1st....Ally Q will be back with a vengeance....I say by next summer that country is going to be toxic as hell.
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