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Post by stokie1947 on Oct 30, 2020 11:37:35 GMT
America is one big country with a population well in access of 300 million people and all you can come up with is Trump 74 and Biden even older at 77 really you couldn't come up with anybody better and younger
from a English point of view from those two i hope Trump wins because i think we will get a better trade deal with him than Biden
betting over here though is pointing to a Biden win at 8-15 and Trump 15-8
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Post by Dump Trump 2020 on Oct 30, 2020 22:16:38 GMT
I see no reason why we'd get a better trade deal with trump.
It's also a terrible pay off for everything else he comes with...
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Post by cliffs on Oct 31, 2020 10:40:15 GMT
Well Donald is running for reelection so there is that on the repub side. As to Biden, I don't get the dems for not choosing somebody else. Maybe some feel safer with what they know rather than an unknown as Donald was? But, as I have said, Biden is getting my vote pretty much just to rid the world of the current president.
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Post by stokie1947 on Oct 31, 2020 11:57:39 GMT
Trump is more pro British than Biden but time will tell looking like the bookies here reckon its all over bar the shouting a Biden win mind you they thought Clinton would have won last time
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Post by Not Trump 2020 on Oct 31, 2020 13:49:57 GMT
Trump is not "pro Britain."
He's pro what makes him look good, which occasionally MIGHT help America, in ONE way, their economy.
Johnson is a fucking Muppet, who would happily and gormlessly let the US run over us.
I still don't even think the trade deal with him would benefit the UK, certainly not as much as it would the US; but the instant a labour, or moderate conservative govt got in, the friendly relationship would be over.
Plus there's the actual matter of what the trade deal involves. Nasty stuff like chlorinated chicken...
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Post by stokie1947 on Nov 1, 2020 9:26:50 GMT
we are going to have agree to disagree
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Post by cliffs on Nov 1, 2020 12:10:51 GMT
FLINT, Mich. (AP) — Barack Obama is hitting President Donald Trump right where he thinks it’ll hurt most: His ego.
Campaigning for Joe Biden on Saturday, the former president painted Trump as insecure and self-absorbed, describing him as a failed president who cares more about himself than the country.
“Trump cares about feeding his ego. Joe cares about keeping you and your family safe,” Obama said in Flint, Michigan.
In a scathing speech, Obama mocked and belittled Trump for everything from the president’s criticism of the media coverage of the coronavirus pandemic — Trump, he said, was “jealous of COVID’s media coverage” — to his “obsession with crowd size.”
“He’s still worried about his inauguration crowd being smaller than mine. It really bugs him. He’s still talking about that. Does he have nothing better to worry about?” Obama said. “Did no one come to his birthday party as a kid? Was he traumatized?”
After delivering a sober indictment of Trump’s presidency and warning that America’s democracy is at stake this election at the Democratic National Convention, Obama has taken on a more lighthearted approach since returning to the campaign trail earlier this month for Biden. The personal attacks on Trump have been a centerpiece of Obama's campaign pitch, and he seems to relish the opportunity to needle his successor. On Saturday, Obama at times smiled as he jabbed the president and often sounded incredulous at the state of his administration.
“The president wants to get credit for the economy he inherited and zero blame for the pandemic he ignored,” Obama said.
Obama also dinged Trump on his masculinity. Without mentioning the president directly, Obama said that “kindness, humility, responsibility, helping somebody else out” used to be “the definition of manliness.”
“Not strutting and showing off. Acting important and bullying people,” Obama said. “It used to be being a man meant taking care of other people. Not going around bragging.”
It's a theme Biden echoed in his own speech, saying that Trump is “not strong, weak,” in reference to the moment when U.N. delegates laughed at the president.
Obama himself has been pushing the personal attacks on Trump all week. Earlier this week in Florida he joked that “Florida Man wouldn’t even do” some of the things Trump has done, a reference to a comical meme highlighting news coverage of the oddball and often reckless conduct that seems to come frequently from Florida residents. In Philadelphia earlier this month, Obama needled Trump for his Chinese bank account, joking that if he’d done the same while running for reelection “they would’ve called me Beijing Barry.”
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Post by stokie1947 on Nov 1, 2020 14:47:41 GMT
Well we must never wish to see this idiot or any Democrat elected as US President. I'm amazed at a few number of so called "Brexiteers" do not like Trump, they even post about it not figuring out Biden and the US Dems are no friend of Britain.
Just a week ago Biden was pushing Nicola Sturgeon to push for Scots Independance.
Let's Pray and Hope that Donald Trump, the most Pro British President in decades wins by a landslide this Tuesday.
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Post by cliffs on Nov 1, 2020 16:45:34 GMT
What has the USA president done directly for the Brits over the last 3 1/2 years? What has he done that has helped the UK advance itself in the world?
As to what presidents are going to do...remember that Obama was going to take away everybody's guns and the USA was going to be a Socialist Muslim country in his 1st term.
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Post by Dump Trump 2020 on Nov 1, 2020 17:47:27 GMT
Yep, just keep saying things as if they're true, the new tactic in this post truth, ill-informed world. Say the thing you WANT to be true, don't bother looking into things to see if they ARE true.
And then "agree to disagree" as if the two positions are of equal value, smh...
America and the UK have had a close relationship for decades. There's no discernable difference between presidents, in opinion or policy. The democrats, eg Clinton and Obama were VERY friendly with Britain, you don't know what you're talking about...
The only thing that affects it is whether the current govts in each country at any one time see eye to eye. (Trump has 4 years max, and God knows what will happen with Johnson. He could gone within a year and the Tories back to a more moderate leadership who don't want to deal with trump. Then there's the next election.)
You also do yourself no favours with your brexit comment as, very clearly, there are many different types of people who support Brexit. Both left and right.
It's pretty obvious too that are MANY reasons to not like trump, both personally and politically.
Seriously, you can't just say stuff, that's not how it works. At least back up your wild claims with wild explanations, so we know where you're getting this stuff from. All we had was a few short sentences of wild conjecture...
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Post by Non patriot on Nov 1, 2020 18:15:44 GMT
Really hope Scotland does get independence as well, btw.
They shouldn't be forced into a disastrous brexit.
As well as just, you know, letting them have their country back and stuff as well...
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Post by stokie1947 on Nov 2, 2020 7:58:48 GMT
has somebody who voted for Brexit i still say Trump is the best for us in getting a decent trade deal in regard to Scotland and Sturgeon they can go for me good riddance to them just make sure there is no way back for them
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Post by cliffs on Nov 2, 2020 12:14:49 GMT
has somebody who voted for Brexit i still say Trump is the best for us in getting a decent trade deal in regard to Scotland and Sturgeon they can go for me good riddance to them just make sure there is no way back for them With his track record of failed deal after failed deal, why the heck would the UK want Donald near any deal they make with anyone? Or, why would the UK want a president from another country making deals for them..... |
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Post by Facts matter on Nov 2, 2020 14:30:27 GMT
Say what you want, you're wrong...
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Post by ErixonStone on Nov 2, 2020 18:46:28 GMT
America is one big country with a population well in access of 300 million people and all you can come up with is Trump 74 and Biden even older at 77 really you couldn't come up with anybody better and younger American politics is insanely corrupt. |
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